David Ould: Failing it again

David Ould has a new post up in which, oh so unexpectedly, he misses the point.

Just in case he goes with his previous tactic of dishonestly editing my comment, I include my full response here

Oh dear oh dear.

So just because "very few" christians of your personal acquaintance don't want SCT bans, that means the issue can be brushed under the rug?

Shame. Many christians have, in fact, expressed a desire to ban Stem Cell Research. Most are also woefully ignorant of how the processes underlying the research actually work. Here', for instance, is George Pell on the subject

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/pell-calls-for-stem-cell-research-ban/2005/09/20/1126982061898.html

And here are some examples of other christians attempting to quash SCR, Fred Nile, Iemma and others included.

http://www.cathnews.com/article.aspx?aeid=5950

That took, oh, 15 seconds?

(oh, and it's not just catholics. They happen to have the most coverage here in Sydney, but there's plenty of other denominations expressing the desire to slow life-saving research for the sake of a bronze-age text)

Now as for the free press issue, obviously you've never been in an online discussion in which the christian side wishes to quash free debate and deny atheists their opportunity to speak?

Oh, wait. You have. My mistake.

The fourth estate has been known, often, to pander to religious viewpoints. Look at the Daily Telegraph around World Youth Day, for instance. You were lucky to see a single dissenting article. I went as far as to call it "The Pope's sole representative on earth".

Census results don't just affect government, they affect the policies of broadcasters, the press, major corporations and pretty much any public-facing entity.

For shame, David. Oh wait. Again, my mistake.


This is not the first time Ould has had a point steam blithely over his head. Sydney Atheists Podcast Episode 11 has a thing or two to say, as, I suspect, will a few of my fellow SA bloggers. Ultimately I think David is a little scared of what Gnu atheism represents and would prefer to go back to the "good old days" when atheists would shut their damn mouths out of "religious respect".

Fuck that.

posted @ Sunday, March 13, 2011 6:03 PM

 
 
 

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# re: David Ould: Failing it again

Left by jason at 3/13/2011 6:04 PM
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Just a little note. I use Akismet here on my blog as a means of quashing spam.

For some reason, Ould is marked by Akismet as a spammer.

So if he starts whinging about me not publishing his comments, I'll just remind him that there must be some reason one of the top spam-blocking services has his number.

# Derp

Left by Dave The Happy Singer at 3/13/2011 8:04 PM
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I can only presume when David said he knew few christians who oppose stem cell research, his implication was 'Aha! We only oppose embryonic stem cell research'.

Or as he puts it: 'we shouldn't experiment on foetuses'.

# re: David Ould: Failing it again

Left by jason at 3/13/2011 8:59 PM
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One more archived comment of mine from David's blog, because I don't trust him to publish critical comments intact:

"No, David,

my point was 'who dishonestly edited comments left by someone else in order to bolster his own position while making his opponent appear to have used solely an ad-hominem attack?'

The answer to that is

1. David Ould

By the way, for that reason I will not be posting here further. I cannot trust you to publish a post without manipulating it to your own ends."

# Hi friend,

Left by Sagar Gorijala at 3/29/2011 12:50 AM
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Hi friend,
I'm Sagar Gorijala from India. I'm an Atheist with a difference and it's I actually proved that god(s) can't exist and I want rest of the World to know my theory and couldn't achieve it and as a fellow Atheist I seek your help in doing so. Here is my theory http://sagargorijala.blogspot.com/
Honestly this won't be something that consumes or wastes your precious time, it's worth more than gold or diamonds. It's for real and this time around theists can't fool around with their ignorance. It has been more than ten long years and I couldn't let the World know my theory. I started it in 1999 December - 2000 January and had it ready in the month of January 2000 since then I tried a lot but couldn't let rest of the World know my theory. If there is a way to join hands with your blogroll please let me know. We are fellow atheists and I need your help.
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